Thursday, January 15, 2009

CHABAD LIES

From: http://kvetcher.net/2009/01/08/the-nitty-gritty/


34 Ronen Levi Yitzchak Segal { 01.15.09 at 2:35 pm } SJ - Learning G-d Almighty’s Torah helps you in the world to come - not your career. I’m sorry a poor American capitalist tried to connect for you the two. Although it wil refine your character traitsand that will help everyone in your world.

The truth hurts I can handle just fine. Some misinformed guy named SJ who thinks the Rebbe is moshiach hurting - well, that’s quite a little different.

Read the Rambam and note that he seems to say that if moshiach is killed, we simply say he had the potential to be moshiach, but wasn’t.

Only the one who puts the Temple on its spot will be called moshiach. Again, sorry you weren’t properly educated on this.

Judaism is Judaims and X-ianty is just that. Keep then seperate please. As confused as you might be about this - there are smply Jews who might be reading - no need to misinform them as well.

May G-d Almighty bless you in all that you do.

35 SJ { 01.15.09 at 11:53 pm } Cut the crap Ronen,

1) it is claimed that learning torah will ‘bestow blessings’ on someone in this world. what you ronen are saying is worse, that learning torah does not help us in this world, and we should spend all of our time studying torah instead of studying for a career.

2) it is also claimed that following shabbat will also help someone ECONOMICALLY in this world.

2) I used to go to a chabad DAY CAMP where they have everyone say, “yechi adonainu we’re full of crapainu, mewearetheborg shelanu melech hamoshiach hachrist leoylum voyed” (to make a jocular paraphrase)

WTF??????? Ronen you lyin to me straight to my face (so to speak) if the seventh lubavitcher rabbi is not referred to the messiah by chabad, then who does the yechi statement refer to when it says all that praise and shit, the easter bunny?

23 comments:

Yeshivish Atheist said...

I remember my mother once put a key in the challah she made for shabbos because it was a segulah to get rich.

People buy into stupid stuff. It happens all the time.

SJ said...

>> People buy into stupid stuff. It happens all the time.


It's unfortunate.

Garnel Ironheart said...

The thing to do is to sift out the ignorant from the important.

Unfortunately a lot of stuff has made its way into "maintstream" Torah Judaism over the centuries that has no place being there. Stuff life amulets, segulos, dibbuks and the sheepshead at Rosh HaShanah. Yes, too many frum Jews think they're a genuine part of Judaism but they're not.

This is where education is so important.

AmIaFrumFeminist said...

I'm sorry... Where is the part where "Chabad lies"?

Your "Say no to Negiah" graphic looks vaguely reminiscent of one I just put on my blog...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WODTMda9NPo/SVntjY3o96I/AAAAAAAAAG8/px-62F7o2Bs/s1600-h/feminists4negiah.jpg

Or http://amiafrumfeminist.blogspot.com/2008/12/feminists-for-negiah.html

SJ said...

>> I'm sorry... Where is the part where "Chabad lies"?

If you can't figure out for yourself from the post, then I can't help you.

The Leader, Garnel Ironheart said...

She does have a point SJ. Usually you just spit out a piece of bile. This last one was a confused cut and pasted piece of bile. You losing your touch?

SJ said...

Garnel, the talmud is obviously not helping your reading comprehension.

Anonymous said...

what happened to your master kvetcher? His site is GONE

SJ said...

i am the master kvetcher, not dk. XD

Anonymous said...

You are the master of something that is sure. Master Bater since no one will touch you maybe?

thecheerer said...

You have been moderated because of your personal attacks. As per policies i have seen on many blogs including your friend DK, i will now use my own discretion when I will allow your comments.

You will cry that I am censoring you because you disagree but I am only censoring because of personal attacks which are against the blog policy. Others are free to post as long as they dont personally attack. Maybe I will reconsider in a month after you have had time to cool down. I gave you two warnings (once in comments once in a web post). Sorry

SJ said...

lol screecher, you erased my "personal attack" and my point that counteres yours.

thecheerer said...

If you wish to repost JUST the point then I will consider approving it. I will not give you a forum for personal attacks and now that you have taken advantage of the forum after two warnings I feel little to no reason to allow any post that contains attacks though. Even if the rest of the post has merit or not.

This is the same policy your friend DK has, I'm actually modeling my policy after his since it works so well on his site.

SJ said...

lol schreecher i'd rather not post on your site anymore because you respond with nonsense all the time.

Factualbasis said...

Poor SJ scared he cant stand up to my friend? He isnt even half the man I am and your still scared!!!

SJ said...

oh jeez factual bull crap, go have some fun, (oh wait), you can't. you disappeared from the internet when it was asked of you to write about all the fun things you do.

Factual Basis said...

That's just false and you know it. I box (as in boxing, not playing with a box), baseball, football and (gasp) WATCH TV!!! Just to name a few. You know that was never asked of me, i shut down my blog because i feel its not doing anything against thick headed people like you. If people read your TOTALLY illogical arguments (if u can call them that) and STILL read and agree with you? I dont want any part of that world. Obviously my pal Cheerer disagrees but whatever.

Also, since when you I have to write about the things i do? Thats not what my blog was about! You dont write about the fun things you do! You just spend your time bashing on religious poeple, I have never seen a post about the fun things that YOU do.

SJ said...

I'll bet that all you do is in fact play with a box. BTW omg, don't tell your orthodox friends that you watch tv, it's bittul torah!

Garnel Ironheart said...

Wow, SJ, you sure know how to endear yourself to people.

SJ said...

Garnel certain people I am not here to endear myself to. Ever think of that?

SJ said...

Like women? Your right all the guys will be over you now...that is until they see how small u r down there

Garnel Ironheart said...

Factual, contact me through my blog. I want to ask you something.

FactualBasis said...

Just e-mail me at fbblog@hotmail.com. I didnt see contact info on your blog