Friday, September 21, 2012

Shmarya's Pitiful Response

Everyone is ganging up on Shmarya over his thread on the synagogue that banned beggars from being inside it. This is a rebuttal to Shmarya's response to the people disagreeing with him on this issue I have to put it in my blog since Shmarya's blog isn't exactly a free speech zone. Shmarya's text in purple.

Actually, if you check the halakhot of this you'll see that you're wrong. You have NO halakhic right to turn away a poor person. You're praying and you don't want to be bothered? It interrupts your "quiet time" with God? Tough crap.

Poor people are not exempt from halacha and noone has the right to interrupt a prayer service.

Who do you think sent that beggar to you? If you believe in the God you're "communing" with, the answer should be clear to you – God did.

God does not make people poor, mentally disturbed, or drug addicts.

And not surprisingly, Jewish moral teachings, especially hasidic moral teaching, are full of stories based on that concept. Past that, you have a simple choice: 1. Follow the halakha and stop harassing the beggars. 2. Do what is comfortable for you.

lol jewish moral teaching is noone can interrupt a prayer service.

That's the same choice you have when you're hungry on Yom Kippur – 1. Follow the halakha and keep fasting or 2. Do what is comfortable and sneak off and eat something. The same God that wants you to fast on Yom Kippur wants you to help the beggar, and forbids you from turning that beggar away empty-handed. So why is this not obvious to you? Because people don't view the poor as messengers sent by God, and they don't view themselves as having any special responsibility to care for them.

beggars as messengers of God? XD roflmao Shmarya went apeshit libtard wacko on this one. XD Libtard Shmarya is just attacking the orthodox without affirming a harsh reality of city life that it's impossible to know if a beggar is legit and chances are he isn't and will use the money for drugs. In Judaism, giving charity to a LEGIT recipient is important to receive the reward for it from God.

That's why the Torah specifically adds the negative command, the Thou Shalt Not, to the positive mitzvah to help the poor: "…You shall not harden your heart or shut your hand from your needy brother. Instead, you shall surely open your hand for him…” Devarim 15:7-8."

Again, the synagogue creating a peaceful praying space has NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bearing on how charitable individual members are. Stereotyping a whole major congregation as being stingy over just not wanting their prayers interrupted by, aka wanting a little respect from, self entitled poor people is wrong. One libtard in the comments suggested that Shmarya look into being a rabbi at a reform or conservative synagogue and liberal synagogues absolutely neeeeever have beggars running around the way some orthodox synagogues do.

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