Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Obama Fucked NASA In The Ass

Constellation (moon mission) is dead, a manned Mars mission is dead, the space shuttle program is dead.

Obama did what Al Quaeda could not handing over U.S. air and space supremacy to the likes of Russia and China.

No, Mars travel is not dead, the USA and Europe are going to be sending another freaken robot there http://www.spacenews.com/civil/110418-single-rover-mars-mission-2018.html instead of people.

13 comments:

Boxed Whine said...

My hubby said that he killed NASA because he was unable to put section 8 housing on the moon. I am pretty sure he was joking.

SJ said...

Obama won't be happy until the USA is just another random country like Iceland or Latvia.

Garnel Ironheart said...

Although the idea of space exploration is cool and excites the imagination, it is not practical. You put a man on the moon and then what? You brought him home.
Are there minerals out there that can cost-effectively be brought back to Earth? Is there any economic benefit from the space program?
Your country is about to go bankrupt. Shutting down NASA's expensive programs will not hurt the situation.

SJ said...

Space exploration is necessary for our national security and for scientific research.

By cutting NASA's balls off, Obama has ceded America's air, space, and scientific superiority for that matter.

The USA can balance the budget without ruining NASA.

Anonymous said...

Fools grow without watering.

Anonymous said...

What's the difference between Garnel Ironheart and SJ?
Garnel's brain actually works!

Okay, that was harsh, but I find myself in almost total agreement with Garnel on this. I think he neglects that space exploration is indeed a worthwhile goal to be promoted but just not necessarily by government operation. Private enterprise can take over! Ever hear about X Prize or Liftport? Garnel the Canadian cares more about the United States than SJ does.

SJ, given your seething unconditional hatred for Barack Obama (sorry Barakkk HUSSEIN Osama that better?), you should actually be thanking him now because he is doing something you ought to agree with! For someone who calls himself a "conservative" shouldn't you trust private businesses to do a better job than big bad government?

I honestly don't get why all you neocon faggots love NASA so much. NASA is a federal government welfare program for space nerds. But we can't let those Communist Chinks and Ruskies beat us in the Space Race. (Even though neither country is communist any more. The Soviet Union is gone and the People's Republic is now more capitalist than the US.)

You ought to salute our Islamo-Marxist negro president from Hawaii Province of the Islamic Socialist People's Republic of Kenya for taking a conservative stance on an issue for once!

Anonymous said...

P.S. SJ's various hilarious Freudian slips about ass fucking and balls notwithstanding, I am lost. How does cutting NASA turn the USA into a "random country" like Iceland or Latvia? And what is a random country anyway? What distinguishes it from a nonrandom country?

SJ said...

>> not necessarily by government operation

It isn't necessarily a government operation but government needs to be involved because the space program does not provide an immediate profit for private industry.

>> Garnel the Canadian cares more about the United States than SJ does.

Stupid comment.


>> (sorry Barakkk HUSSEIN Osama that better?)

Yes. XD

>> For someone who calls himself a "conservative" shouldn't you trust private businesses to do a better job than big bad government?

Yep there's the spin about Obama privatizing (ruining) NASA while the Obama government takes over the car industry, healthcare, and the banks.

Space exploration is so expensive that private industry can't necessarily do it. The government needs to be involved.


>> I am lost. How does cutting NASA turn the USA into a "random country" like Iceland or Latvia?

Countries without a space program, genius.

>> . The Soviet Union is gone and the People's Republic is now more capitalist than the US.

Vladimir Putin is a KGB guy and China is not more capitalist than the US. If you want to put forward that China is more capitalist than the US then you would be admitting that Obama is indeed a communist.

Anonymous said...

Stupid comment.

WOW! Great rebuttal! You win... [pause]... NOT!

Yep there's the spin about Obama privatizing (ruining) NASA while the Obama government takes over the car industry, healthcare, and the banks.

False assumption. Just because I think that Obama is right RE the space program, does not mean I think it is right when he does the EXACT OPPOSITE on "the car industry, healthcare, banks." For instance, Obama, like fellow corporate socialists Bush and McCain, supported bailing out the banksters. However, you should be praising Obama when he DOES get something right while criticizing what (you think) he does wrong. But it's not about the issues with you it's about our "nigger Muslim commie president."

Space exploration is so expensive that private industry can't necessarily do it. The government needs to be involved.

Sure but that doesn't stop them. Private corporations and institutions are driving towards reducing the cost of space travel and opening it up to private enterprise. At this rate, some private corporation will probably have an operational space elevator while NASA continues to use rocket craft from the last century. The X Prize is more in the spirit of capitalism than NASA.

Countries without a space program, genius.

I might not be a genius, but you have a strange definition of "random." Apparently it means lacking a space program. And Latvia DID have a space program. Then it left the USSR. Now that they are no longer commies they are a "random" country. Hmmm...

Vladimir Putin is a KGB guy and China is not more capitalist than the US. If you want to put forward that China is more capitalist than the US then you would be admitting that Obama is indeed a communist.

Nope, Vladimir Putin WAS a KGB guy. Get your tenses right! With the dissolution of the Soviet regime the KGB was no more. Almost all former-KGB are involved in the Russian mafia. (Russians abandoned their Marxist-Leninist socialism for capitalism, a step in the right direction but really not by much in their case. But unfortunately they did not get the modern welfare capitalism of the West or the laissez faire capitalism championed by Libertarians. They wound up with the gangster capitalism of the turn of the 20th century. The Russian Mafia runs shit in that sad country.)

And if you really think that China is still communist, you must have shit for brains! (Okay, that's a bit unfair. No need to insult fecal matter by comparing it to the contents of your cranial cavity.) Ever hear of the capitalist roader Deng Xiaoping? Richard Nixon? Google is thy friend!

Anyways, I think it is obvious that you are NOT a "conservative," at least not in the sense that Goldwater or Reagan would define it. You are a theocon-neocon who only believes in small government with regards to minor welfare programs, a neoconservative Jesus freak who wants the government to dictate Christian morality and engage in wasteful military and space spending. That might make you "conservative" by your definition, but really you are a social conservative and a hawk but selectively fiscally conservative.

SJ said...

>> However, you should be praising Obama when he DOES get something right

Killing NASA is not doing something right.

>> nigger Muslim commie president

Noone said anything about Obama being black.

>> Sure but that doesn't stop them. Private corporations and institutions are driving towards reducing the cost of space travel and opening it up to private enterprise.

Private corporations can't do a manned moon or Mars mission without help from the government.

>> I might not be a genius, but you have a strange definition of "random." Apparently it means lacking a space program.

That's part of the definition of random. An ordinary country, not an exceptional country like the USA.


Also, my tenses are perfectly correct with regard to Putin. As for China, they are communist and have opened up to -some- capitalism.


You're nuts if you think Goldwater and Reagan did not want a space program; WHILE wanting to keep spending under control.

Our military and space spending is note wasteful and I do think that the budget needs to be balanced so there I am fiscally conservative.

Anonymous said...

"Killing NASA is not doing something right."

Why not? The onus is on you to explain why killing (your word) NASA is bad. WHAT HAS NASA DONE RIGHT? I do not find your attempts to argue this point convincing. Personally I do not see why we need to spend billions of tax payer dollars on expensive (and dangerous) shuttle launches so that astronauts can dick around on the International Space Station (ISS).

"Noone said anything about Obama being black."

That may be, but you FAIL to recognize hyperbole/irony/sarcasm.

"Private corporations can't do a manned moon or Mars mission without help from the government."

You are probably correct; at least from the present standpoint anyway, this is likely to change in the future. But we haven't been to the Moon in about four decades (which prompts the loony Apollo-deniers to question if it was ever possible), and NASA does not seem to have the capabilities for a manned Mars expedition as of now, so your point is rather moot.

"That's part of the definition of random. An ordinary country, not an exceptional country like the USA."

Well, if you wish to define random then your best bet would be to consult a mathematician or maybe even a philosopher, but failing that you can always try the dictionary!

random

In no accepted definition of random does the term mean "not exceptional." I suppose the closest would be definition #2 in the Computing Dictionary, but that is a rather slangy and informal usage. Even so, it is kind of a stretch to match your neologism.

(Even so, I fail to see how downsizing NASA will suddenly turn the USA un-extraordinary...)

"Also, my tenses are perfectly correct with regard to Putin."

Nope, sorry, you're wrong! The KGB was disbanded in November 1991. At most you can say that Putin was KGB. To say that he IS KGB is impossible unless Putin is a TIME TRAVELER... AAAH! Maybe we do need a space program! Those damn Russians already have time machines!

Anonymous said...

"As for China, they are communist and have opened up to -some- capitalism."

The People's Republic of China is "communist" the way North Korea is a "democratic republic." China is "communist" in name only. Deng Xiaoping (whom Mao condemned as the number two capitalist roader in China) worked to dismantle the communist aspects of Chinese economics while keeping the Chinese "Communist" Party structure and the state infrastructure intact. While the Chinese have not implemented laissez faire capitalism or totally free enterprise, they ARE fundamentally capitalist, and by many metrics they are more capitalist and have a freer market than Western nations. Of course, the Party and the State still play a major role in business, but the economy there is more akin to crony capitalism than socialism. (Unfortunately political liberalization is still a long way off, but it is bound to eventually happen.)

It is obvious SJ, that you are mentally trapped in the Cold War. Tell your buddies reenacting the Cold War in the woods of West Virginia that we won, it's over!

"You're nuts if you think Goldwater and Reagan did not want a space program; WHILE wanting to keep spending under control."

Different times, different situation! Goldwater and Reagan were Cold War presidential candidates. The space race was an important part of the process. Today, the space race is no longer going on and NASA is an excuse for a select few people to dick around in orbit. For Goldwater and Reagan, space travel was a worthwhile, justified, even necessary expense! I doubt they would much care nowadays.

"Our military and space spending is note wasteful and I do think that the budget needs to be balanced so there I am fiscally conservative."

The space program, though a small sliver of the federal budget, is billions of dollars spent on a DISTRACTION.

The defense budget is close to 58% of the federal budget. And the United States spends 46.5% of global military expenditures. We spend more than the next 14 countries (and that includes China, France, the UK, and Russia) COMBINED. We spend more than triple the combined total of every state (and there's hundreds of them!) that individually spends less than any of the top 15 nations. [SOURCE]

What's worse, much of this goes towards such frivolous projects as obsolete weapons systems, or keeping bases open in nearly every foreign country. (Why do we need so many US troops in Germany and Japan? I thought we won WW2!) This path of empire (and let's face it, America was an empire for about 113 years) is ruinous.

I happen to agree that the entire edifice of the warfare-welfare state needs to be reduced. Unlike you I do not believe in eliminating the welfare state while leaving the warfare state intact. I fail to see how you can achieve a balanced budget with tax cuts and ruinous military spending.

SJ, your claims to be a "fiscal conservative" are fraudulent and laughable!

SJ said...

dude if you are so far out there as to believe that NASA deserves to be scrubbed, then I can't really convince you otherwise.