Tuesday, May 5, 2009


DK, the editor of the Kvetcher.net blog has recently banned me from his blog over satirizing the lying kiruvnic Segal after he passed away, even though DK is normally very critical of kiruv.

As a result, DK banned me from his blog, and then what does DK do next? DK does satire of his own! * gasp * That's right, in his most recent post at the time of this writing, DK does a satire piece of his own on the religious community titled Helping the Haredi Health Minister Out you can go to kvetcher.net for the post content.

In case people think that I just jump on the guy after he died, I was equally rough with him while he was still alive, because he was a lying kiruvnic.

It's a shame DK had to throw such a shit fit over my own satire because he often has good points and I'd like to have him in my blogroll. Although, in my own opinion my satire is better than his. XD


Ari said...

Dude, seriously if you can't understand the difference between mocking Orthodox Judaism and . . . mocking a dead man and his children . . . then I don't really know how to explain it.

What I do know for certain is that regardless of DK's handle of satire it can not be worse than yours. Case in point: http://thoughtsofasj.blogspot.com/2009/04/rabbi-contest.html

Now I really don't get kicks beating up on you SJ. But 1) You're not funny. So I think you should stop attempting humor.

And more importantly B. you ought to recognize we making fun of a dead man who leaves behind children over something as "trivial" as kiruv is inappropriate . . .

Although the fact that you can't recognize that on your own does demonstrate a serious lack of common decency in your upbringing. Regardless of how across the Orthodox spectrum you were raised your educators seemed to have missed the boat on instilling any sense of morals within you . . .

Garnel Ironheart said...

I'm slowly coming to the realization that SJ is, in fact, a frum guy who hates secular Jews. The purpose of his blog, it now becomes clear, is to make secular Jews look like total idiots.

Unfortunately he's an effective blogger in this regard.

Anonymous said...

not only does your satire suck, but so does your writing.

As Ari is completely right on, if you cant understand the difference between satire and satire of a dead man you have some serious issues (that would explain why your arguments make no sense even when you have a good point)

FrumJewInYU said...

You know, Garnel, I think you're onto something there. SJ is likely a frum Jew trying to make secular Jews look bad, and JP is probably a secular Jew trying to make frum Jews look bad.

SJ said...

I did not make fun of Segal's kids. Segal's kids are not lying kiruvnics, not yet anyways XD

And i'm not religious. -.-

Garnel Ironheart said...

Hi FrumJew in YU,

Thanks for the support and for a real frum Jew positing real frum stuff check out:


BTW, you're not the first person I've seen suggest that JP is a non-frummie trying to make us look bad. Is this what the blogsphere has devolved into?!

(Don't whine, SJ. You advertise on my spot all the time)

cipher said...


I was not a defender of Ronen; I had a bit of a run-in with him, myself. That being said, I don't think he was nearly as bad as you're making him out to be. He wasn't a "lying kiruvnik", just a lonely, deluded, depressed man looking for something to hold onto.

This is over the top. I don't hold with whitewashing people simply because they've died, but going out of your way to attack him is inappropriate. Really, there are better targets out there.

- Jeff Eyges

SJ said...

Jeff, as far as I'm concerned Ronen was a smart guy, and a religiously induced pathological liar.