tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post8180811252145401003..comments2023-10-09T10:35:20.874-04:00Comments on Thoughts of a Secular Jew: So it seems that Christianity is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeven closer to jewish tradition than the present day jewish establishment claims.SJhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post-47410352286704519282011-08-04T20:30:43.073-04:002011-08-04T20:30:43.073-04:00The verbatim from the gemarah seems to be it's...The verbatim from the gemarah seems to be it's as an atonement.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704885840004960450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post-63160886998391827552011-08-04T17:57:34.793-04:002011-08-04T17:57:34.793-04:00David, you're right because the concepts are d...David, you're right because the concepts are different at the core.<br />The tzadik dying for the sin of the generation is to prevent the generation from being punished, not as an unconditional atonement.Mighty Garnel Ironhearthttp://garnelironheart.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post-27260517457095752652011-08-03T07:47:38.793-04:002011-08-03T07:47:38.793-04:00But Garnel, even if it was originally a Jewish ide...But Garnel, even if it was originally a Jewish idea which the Christians appropriated ("stole" seems a little harsh-- was it copyrighted?), the fact is that anti-missionary types do spend a great deal of time emphasizing that Judaism does not permit this kind of "substitute sacrifice." The Torah does say that "the father shall not be put to death for the sins of the son," etc.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15752938979399977997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post-88064553118082228952011-07-31T15:15:32.585-04:002011-07-31T15:15:32.585-04:00Actually the idea that a saintly person dies to at...Actually the idea that a saintly person dies to atone for the sins of his generation was originally a Jewish one that the chrisians stole.Garnel Ironheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3627627202031486081.post-15561254352855930292011-07-31T13:54:22.006-04:002011-07-31T13:54:22.006-04:00Hey Rosh Yeshiva!
In 2 weeks during Bein Hazmanim...Hey Rosh Yeshiva!<br /><br />In 2 weeks during Bein Hazmanim we will be going up to that famous town Nazareth birthplace of your future Lord and Savior (the hotel can't seem to get any real paying guests so they turn it Mehadrin and bring in all the Chareidi Frummies - separate swimming and all...lol)<br />Shall I pass along any messages to a grotto or something for you? (Do you guys have anything like that?)<br />I'll try to send you pictures.chaynobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01555831452024893892noreply@blogger.com